tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003917.post4844290790679636123..comments2023-06-08T09:56:24.603+01:00Comments on Carpathian Cloud: ELS 2009 - my impressionsEdgar Gonçalveshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05728895749334817487noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003917.post-41839689017687332382009-06-02T11:13:35.153+01:002009-06-02T11:13:35.153+01:00Oops, my bad - that was me having to close the lap...Oops, my bad - that was me having to close the laptop lid on the plane, and forgetting to finish off the paragraph :) Thanks, edited it!Edgar Gonçalveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05728895749334817487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003917.post-63217220269081289322009-06-02T10:56:25.691+01:002009-06-02T10:56:25.691+01:00Nice overview.
I think you are missing something ...Nice overview.<br /><br />I think you are missing something after <I>The thing is, by having her interpreter, she easily tapped to the ...</I>.Cláudio Gilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12250201841177270352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003917.post-72308690346274784202009-06-02T10:42:24.418+01:002009-06-02T10:42:24.418+01:00i know the process. and believe me, for a one man'...i know the process. and believe me, for a one man's work, the momentum it's getting is impressive, indeed!<br />But the thing is that clojure isn't ANSI CL compliant, and that makes it harder to get lisp libraries to work as expected. hence, either clojure tries to evolve into a Common Lisp (probably loosing backwards compatibility), or Common Lisp tries to adapt, having the trouble to get the same momentum clojure already has. <br /><br />I believe the greater showstopper is really not being able to rebind global names on external namespaces. Lots of lisp libraries rely on that.<br /><br />But I'm not trying to discredit clojure - i still belive that for anyone who isn't in love with common lisp, it probably is better to try clojure and use a simpler programming style, based on a massive amount of java libraries! :)Edgar Gonçalveshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05728895749334817487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6003917.post-32972224670482998432009-06-02T09:56:26.239+01:002009-06-02T09:56:26.239+01:00Thanks for posting this.
On:
"...but wonder...Thanks for posting this.<br /><br />On:<br /> "...but wonders if it's easier to improve Clojure or to design a new Lisp and get it right from design..."<br /><br />My experience of playing with Clojure so far has been more successful than with other Lisp's, why? Because its on the JVM, you get instant access to all libs you would ever need to get you running in no time, gets to be quite portable, and easily plug-able into already existing Java systems.<br />And haven't even started to play with STM, I just consider it to be a bonus of an already nice language.<br />Then it snowball's: more easy to start using it -> more people use it -> more information you find on how to use it -> more people use it etc..<br /><br />So whatever way you might decide to go, do consider a big platform to have it on.Alexandre Martinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01500150233692518266noreply@blogger.com